Chemistry can spark attraction… but it rarely sustains intimacy.
In this episode, Gwyn Isaacs talks with Deborah Kat about what actually carries relationships past the honeymoon phase: empowerment, communication, and pleasure skills.

If you’ve ever felt deeply connected at first… and then slowly confused about why desire faded, this conversation offers a grounded, compassionate reframe.

Deborah Kat is a sex expert, tantric educator, professional dom, and host of The Better Sex Podcast. Together, she and Gwyn unpack the myth that chemistry alone is enough and explore the real skills that sustain intimacy over time… skills most of us were never taught.

This episode dives into Deborah’s three pillars of great sex and relationships:

• Empowerment — knowing your yes, your no, and your wants

• Communication — timing, tone, nervous system safety, and repair

• Pleasure skills — touch, attunement, curiosity, and practice

Along the way, we talk about how cultural scripts (romance novels, sitcoms, movies) quietly sabotage real relationships, why fantasies don’t equal obligations, and how treating relationship like a lab instead of a performance can bring more ease, safety, and desire.

This is a thoughtful, practical, deeply human conversation about intimacy as something you practice, not something you magically master.

Deborah Kat is a sex expert, tantric educator, and professional Domme, as well as host of the Better Sex Podcast. She works with men and couples to normalize the trials, tribulations, and joys of sex while helping them build deeply satisfying relationships.

She is the host of Better Sex Podcast ~ Unfiltered Conversations and Sex and Relationships.

You can also find her on Facebook

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