What Excites Us!

Episode 34: Exploring Lingerie with Luna Pearl

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[00:00:00] Gwyn: This podcast is about sex and sexuality, so please only listen if you are an adult without kids or other ears around that cannot, or do not consent to sensitive language and content. Thanks.
Hello and welcome to What Excites Us, the podcast that discusses sex and sexuality through a lens of acceptance and healing throughout time and space, including the here and now. I'm Gwyn Isaacs, a sex coach and educator, and I believe you deserve to feel sexy whenever you want to. And one way you can do that is by wearing lingerie. And to talk about that with me is my guest, Luna Pearl. Luna is a sex coach in training meditation coach, owner of Pink Pearl Lingerie and Lingerie Talk Magazine. As a self-proclaimed lingerie connoisseur she uses lingerie as a tool to unblock and heighten sensuality.
During our conversation, she helps us imagine the delight in being totally connected to our bodies, grounded and comfortable in our own skin. And how, by wearing lingerie, we can experience ourselves in a new and expanded way that even enables others to feel our heart-centered, divine, feminine, playful power. In other words, how aligning with our sensual nature also helps tap into our sexuality and how wearing even a simple piece can feel like a superpower.
But before we jump into it, I do have a favor to ask. If you listen on one of the apps that lets you leave a rating or review like iTunes or Spotify or some of the other ones, please take a moment and do that. While it's super great that you let me know that you are enjoying the show and I so appreciate it, thank you. If you rate and review on one of these apps, it will help immensely raise the show in the algorithm. I read all of the reviews and I might even publicly thank you here too.
Oh, and, and one last thing. We recorded this in my dear friend Rachel's living room in Las Vegas where I grew up because I want to be able to travel and bring you interesting information about sex and sexuality from more cultures and more places. But like everything else, running this interview was a learning curve. Luna was very kind and offered to come over so we can do this. Thank you again, Luna. What a blast we had.

Hi Luna. Thank you so much. Like legit, thank you so much for coming over and doing this with me. Practicing the in personness.

[00:02:52] Luna: Absolutely. Thank you for having me. Just Just some random stranger in your house. Thank you so much,

[00:03:01] Gwyn: Well, you're only a little bit of a random stranger because we have the SCU in common. So are you still training or have you finished the program?

[00:03:09] Luna: No, I'm still in.

[00:03:11] Gwyn: How are you enjoying it?

[00:03:13] Luna: It's a lot of content. It's a lot of work. I wasn't expecting it to be this much work. And I think as an adult you're like, oh, school's not that bad. And then you get into school and then you're like, it is that bad.

[00:03:26] Gwyn: Yes,

[00:03:28] Luna: but I'm loving it. I am sapiosexual. So I love learning. I love getting into the mind so it doesn't bother me. I love it.

[00:03:38] Gwyn: Yeah. it's pretty close to a Master's equivalency in, terms of the amount of information.

[00:03:45] Luna: It's like when, as soon as you open the module, you're like, I'm never gonna finish this

[00:03:52] Gwyn: Right?! I don't remember. There was one module that took me like three months. I'm like, why is this taking and because I, you know, I wanna be sure to really grasp the information.

[00:04:04] Luna: Yeah

[00:04:05] Gwyn: And so I would just go back and reread it. And reread it. And like about it for a day or two and then come back and Yeah.

[00:04:11] Luna: And then re-watch the videos and all that. And I'm like, this is taking forever

[00:04:16] Gwyn: I know. I was like, oh, I'll be able to whip through this in three months. No, not at all

[00:04:21] Luna: Mmp Mmm

[00:04:22] Gwyn: No. Which is great. I mean, you wanna have coaches out there that are actually informed.

[00:04:29] Luna: Right

[00:04:31] Gwyn: I have some issues with just anybody calling themselves a coach. What led you to wanna do that?

[00:04:38] Luna: So I've always been into sex and not in the physical form of just having sex, but what makes people want to have sex? Where the issues with people who can't have sex and in trying to figure out how I can hone in on that. I knew nothing about sex coaching I was actually thinking that I would have to be a domme in order to get into that realm. And then one day I was just Googling sex therapy and SCU popped up and I was like, that's it, that's where I need to be. But it's always been like my passion to just talk to people about like their wants and desires, and usually sex is in that want and desire, And so I, it is just been a thing like people come to me naturally about sex or just things they wanna do or pursue. And usually I find that the nature of sex is what allows you to create. You know, it, gets the juices flowing and makes you feel more alive after sex or before, or if you just, what is it called? Retain your orgasm. It gets your juices going, right? And so just tapping into that and just learning about sex on so many other levels than just the physical, penis, vagina thing or vagina, vagina thing. it's empowering. And so I love it.

[00:06:08] Gwyn: Talk to me about lingerie.

[00:06:10] Luna: I love lingerie for many reasons, but one of my main reasons is because it's a ego booster, if done properly, right? I usually host like once a year I'll host a lingerie event, where I'll invite women out and pick a theme for the lingerie, and we'll just have drinks and have discussions. I know one time I did like a boudoir photo shoot there. So like just Empowering women to be confident in their body. But if worn right it can really boost you if worn incorrectly, it's counterproductive Right. And so, and it can actually turn you off to lingerie completely. Cuz I have some people that I've dealt with that say like, it's uncomfortable, I don't like it, it's not appealing to my form or whatnot. And I've learned that if you look at the pictures on the internet, you're, you're doing it wrong.

[00:07:10] Gwyn: Like so many pictures on the internet Yes.

[00:07:14] Luna: Because you see the model on, you know, wearing the lingerie. Obviously they're not showing her nipples. So there goes that right there. You're learning that it's all photoshopped. And then on top of that, like that body. It may not be natural and it may not look like your body. So even though I'm a slim woman, not everything looks good on me. You know what I'm saying? And, and people have that impression like, oh, you're skinny, you can wear anything. It's like, no, sometimes I look like a string bean and or it's hanging off or it's just not appealing to my body. Some things look better on thicker women than it does on me. And so just talking to women about finding the material that feels good to their body, cuz that's another thing when you get the cookie cutter lingerie, that's one size fits all that does not make any sense. It may be itchy to you. Um, what is it? Skin sensitivities and all those things, and just the way it fits. And so just discussing different ways to make your body feel good wearing lingerie in different types. Bodysuits chemises, anything that's out there, if you wanna wear the more risque with the pasty and the thong, Hey, whatever makes you feel good. But to me I call lingerie my superpower. Yes. I mean, cuz it, it's different from wearing like your, your panties and bra under your clothes. Right? With lingerie, like sometimes I'll wear it underneath my clothes, and it gives me that extra boost, it's like that adrenaline walking down the street like nobody else knows. But I know, and I feel sexy. And I tell that to people all the time. Like if you're having a bad day or you feel like less than in yourself, Throw on some lingerie, you might not feel like it at that moment. But when you put it on and, you know, you get dressed or whatever, it kind of changes things. It does for me anyway. I don't know about anybody else. So, yeah, that's my thing. I love lingerie!

[00:09:18] Gwyn: Do you help people find what works for them?

[00:09:21] Luna: So I have not set that up yet. But I am in the works of doing that. However, like I usually do just women empowerment seminars discussing lingerie. And I also have my own lingerie line that I sell lingerie and I make my own lingerie pieces. So yeah, I, I'm not in the process of doing like consulting, That would be awesome. I would love to do it. but yeah no, not yet. That sounds like it would be, I mean I might sign up for that. You know, hey, my first client,

[00:10:00] Gwyn: Cause right. Like when you go to try stuff on it's so much of that. is what the lighting is, what the mirrors are. Mm-hmm. Right? I recently saw a woman try on the same outfit in three different department store fitting rooms. And just based on where the lights were and what, how high quality the mirror was, you know totally changed the way that this outfit looked on her. It was the same outfit.

[00:10:30] Luna: That, you know what that is? True Lighting can be terrible and make you feel horrible, or it can just be amazing and you feel amazing. So yeah. That 's interesting.

[00:10:41] Gwyn: And it seems like fit matters and, texture matters.

[00:10:47] Luna: Yes. And the reason why I always my first go-to is the type of fabric that you're comfortable with. Because if you wear a fabric that you're not comfortable with, it will make you leave your body. Subconsciously. Like you will wear it, but you're not in your body, you're not present. You know, how have you ever worn like some jeans that weren't comfortable and so you just gotta power through the day, right? It's like you leave your body for that moment so you don't have to feel it. And so when you're in something like lingerie right, like in the beginning, kind of uneasy, you know, if it's your first time. So you don't want to get a fabric that doesn't agree with you or doesn't feel good to you because you're already nervous about it. And then to be uncomfortable completely would be terrible. So I want people to be in their bodies when they're doing it so they know, okay, this feels good to me. And it doesn't, if it doesn't feel good, immediately take it off. Too easy, right? Instead of having to power through it because the experience of wearing lingerie is for you. I mean, some people wear it for their partners, but it's more so for you. It's an empowering situation. What I call it. it's an empowering thing and if you're wearing it for yourself or for your partner, you wanna make sure that your number one focus is you being comfortable.

[00:12:15] Gwyn: Yeah, comfort seems of the utmost importance, and I can totally imagine and have probably done where I bought something, put it on and didn't like it, and then was like, well, I spent the $30 on it, for whatever it is. You know what I mean? Like, I guess I have to wear it and, and you don't, you don't have to wear it.

[00:12:34] Luna: Get that receipt and take it right on back. Yeah. Cause then you're going through the day, picking at it and trying to like wiggle through it, and it's the worst. So especially with lingerie and how it's, meant to be intimate. You want to be comfortable in that intimate setting. So you definitely make sure that the fabric agrees with you, the fit agrees with you. All of it.

[00:13:01] Gwyn: Colors you like, that sort of thing

[00:13:03] Luna: Colors especially too, ya.

[00:13:05] Gwyn: Yeah. So are there certain shapes that fit better on certain body types?

[00:13:11] Luna: Well, you can say that, however, there are people who are more open to just wearing anything, no matter their body size or type. So I don't like to put people in box like, you know, my, my curvy women need to wear chemises and my smaller women need to wear bodysuits. I say, everybody wear it all. It just depends on what agrees with your skin, and you know what's comfortable for you. Because when you put people in the box of You should or shouldn't wear this, then we're doing what we say we don't want people to do to us. So no, I think everyone can wear anything that's comfortable for them. I would never tell someone that's small not to wear a chemise. That doesn't make sense. Or tell someone that's curvy, not to wear a bodysuit. Because I want my women or any woman to feel confident in what they're wearing. And so telling them that they can't is taking that away. Taking their voice away.

[00:14:14] Gwyn: Thank you. Snaps to that. Are there tips or suggestions that you would make to somebody who's going out for the first time to look at lingerie?

[00:14:26] Luna: Yes. I would tell them to be easy on yourself. Be gentle and have fun with it. I always suggest for your first time maybe putting on a satin gown or something flowy. That way you get used to the fabrics. So or it doesn't have to be flowy cuz lace isn't really necessarily flowy, but try a satin gown if you're not used to like the snaps in between your legs and all the pushing and the tightening around if you're not used to all that. And then cuz lingerie can be tricky. You have the straps everywhere and all. So if you're new to the lingerie game, I highly suggest. Starting simple with like a satin gown. And then once you're comfortable with that, working your way up to a body suit and then get the more strappy things once you're more comfortable with that or a thong or something. But just start small and definitely have grace on yourself You never commit to something you don't like . That's the other thing. If you don't like it, take it off. Don't stay in it. Don't, oh, I spent the money. Nope. Donate it to a friend. But definitely your comfort is the most important thing when wearing lingerie.

[00:15:44] Gwyn: So don't jump right into like a super complex teddy or corset.

[00:15:49] Luna: Absolutley not.

[00:15:51] Gwyn: But they're so pretty.

[00:15:52] Luna: They are, and you know what, and sometimes people jump right into those, like when they're going to events or something, they'll put on a corset or something just to, you know, spice up their outfit and then, but you see them pulling at it because they're not used to it. And so that kind of takes your confidence away because you're pulling at something and you're constantly messing with yourself when you should be enjoying whatever you're doing. And it's the same thing with just wearing lingerie for the bedroom. Like you're pulling at it and fixing it because you're not comfortable. So definitely don't jump out the gate with the, with the strappy stuff and the corsets, try something a little more easy on you so that you can get used to it.

[00:16:34] Gwyn: Yeah, that, that makes a lot of And experimenting with the fabrics.

[00:16:39] Luna: Definitely.

[00:16:40] Gwyn: It sounds like maybe going to a, whatever your local lingerie store, Victoria's Secret, or Torrid , or whatever mm-hmm to just touch things.

[00:16:49] Luna: Yes.

[00:16:50] Gwyn: Seem Like a good idea.

[00:16:51] Luna: Yeah. And even if. Because some of those stores, they might not have like all the fabrics that are out there. You can even go to your local fabric store and touch some of the fabrics to see, okay, like this type of nylon feels good but this one doesn't, and things like that. Just to understand cuz you might even be allergic to something and so just learning like what makes you feel itchy and things like that so you don't go, cuz Victoria's Secret is a, good investment. I'm not playing with that investment. So no, I would rather know that I can't wear it and then move on then to buy it for a hundred, $150 and be like, oh, I gotta donate it. that's, that's donate. Obviously, really don't wanna give to you.

[00:17:41] Gwyn: Somebody, at Goodwill's gonna be really happy.

[00:17:47] Luna: So yeah, I would definitely, make sure you understand your body type as far as your comfort level

[00:17:56] Gwyn: And what do you think about buying online? How do you feel about

[00:18:00] Luna: I buy online all the time because I pretty much have a standard size, but there are some people who, you know, a medium fits different this way with this clothing person than it does with this, you know, clothing line. So, if you're gonna buy online, just make sure you have measuring tape. And then make sure you look at the measurements and then measure yourself. And so, you know, okay, I can, in this line I can wear a small or a medium or a large or whatever. I like buying online, however, don't pay attention to the pictures or the models I should say. Cause it, everybody's body types are different. So what may look good on you may not look good on me. And then you also have to know that like, again, those are photoshopped, so just make sure you're cautious of that. But if you like the actual piece itself, buy it! And you know what, it's gonna agree, like the material. Cause I always read the material, like what it's made out of. How much stretch does it have? Cuz is important these days. . So yeah. And then I make my purchase, so yeah. But online is fine. I've seen like the store Shein they have some nice stuff and it's really cheap, so it's okay to, buy something there and it doesn't fit right, it's like ok $3

[00:19:26] Gwyn: Right. It's not, it's not a Victoria Secret investment.

[00:19:30] Luna: Listen,

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[00:20:54] Luna: Yes, For sure.

[00:20:55] Gwyn: Yeah. You would agree with that?

[00:20:56] Luna: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, and if you don't have someone then you gotta do what you gotta do. But if you do, yeah. Because usually like when you use the tape, it slips or something, so you're not getting the accurate measurement. So yeah, it would definitely be best if you had someone to help you. But if you don't, then you gotta do what you gotta do

[00:21:16] Gwyn: And if you do, just that piece of it can be a little bit of an intimacy your partner.

[00:21:22] Luna: Yeah, because it's kind of vulnerable now you got to, you, you know, your sizes, your hip size, your waist and all that. So yeah, just letting your partner be a part of that experience. And it's also nice for your partner to know your sizes because they might want to buy you lingerie.

[00:21:40] Gwyn: When we first started talking about this, you said you had parties? So tell me what is that like?

[00:21:46] Luna: So it's basically like women's empowerment parties. So I invite women from all over anywhere. I put it on Eventbrite and send invitations out to people that I know. And I pretty much, so, like one that I've done, it was chemise and Champagne. And this is where I had the boudoir photographer there. We played games party favors and all those things. And we just discussed like how we felt in the lingerie. We put on like a mock fashion show.

[00:22:21] Gwyn: Oh, fun.

[00:22:22] Luna: Yeah, it's just a way to help women feel confident in their lingerie as well as seeing that other women root you on. Because a lot of times there's this thing out where people assume that women don't like each other. It's so weird because we actually love each other. And when you get a group of women in a room where they all are kind of like either naked or feeling like they're a little discouraged, like, you know, cuz you could see, like in the beginning some women were like, pulling at themselves and like not feeling. And then once everybody started saying, oh girl, you look cute and I like that and where'd you get that from? And then when they're taking their pictures and all the girls started coming and like posing them and putting makeup on 'em and you know, holding their hair up and it was just amazing. So just creating a community of women where we can encourage each other to be sexy cause that myth is out there that we don't like each and in all reality we do. But we walk out on the streets and we see another woman, and in our minds it's like, oh, is she looking at me like, oh, she does. You know what I'm saying? And really, that woman that's looking at you, it's like, oh, that shirt is really nice. That color matches her. You know, her skin. That's usually how I'm thinking. You know, or, or I like her body or, you know, something like that. I'm always complimenting women in my head. But if you have been taught that women don't like each other, then you're thinking, I'm looking at you for many other reasons. And so just getting a group of women in the room and seeing that, that's not really how we are. How we praise each other is it's quite magical actually.

[00:24:04] Gwyn: Yeah, that sounds, I'm like, ooh, can I do that? I wanna have that. That sounds like a great evening.

[00:24:10] Luna: Yeah. And, it started because I wanted to actually throw, cuz I mean, Living in Vegas, you can capitalize on the fact that women throw bachelorette parties and stuff out here and stuff. I was like, it would be so cool to get a group of women together and have lingerie parties and, you know, we do different types of games and things like that. And so I was it testing it out like as a pilot thing? But then once I realized like, I don't think it's something that I want to like commercialize, I think I want to keep it like private and intimate to where it could just, it can grow from that. Yeah,

[00:24:49] Gwyn: Yeah. I mean, we are so, I don't know. There's a lot of judgment here specifically, in Vegas. Yeah. I mean, it's everywhere, but when your town is run by showgirls and Mormons and gangsters There's a lot of pressure

[00:25:07] Luna: It's crazy know,

[00:25:09] Gwyn: have the right shade of lipstick or whatever. And then we're taught to judge ourselves. And then, so we are judging everybody else because we're assuming that they're judging us. And we're trying to get ahead of them on that. And it just, it becomes this whole thing. Yeah. so, taking that whole aspect out of it. Makes a lot of sense to me.

[00:25:31] Luna: Yeah. Because I just love seeing women comfortable, no matter their body type, size, color, anything. And it's, it's amazing. . And even if you aren't comfortable in your body, just having other women pour into to help you build that confidence. Because a lot of times people feel alone in their different body types or skin shades or things of that nature. And so having a group of people, even strangers or friends just pour into you. It is, it's magical.

[00:26:06] Gwyn: We're getting better at being not quite as mean to each other. Um, especially around body types. I mean, but I don't know any young woman who doesn't have a part of their body that they hate.

[00:26:19] Luna: Oh yeah, of course even older ones.

[00:26:21] Gwyn: Oh yeah, absolutely. Yes, but it's worse in high school and it's all a part of, you know, you wanna put somebody else down cuz then you can feel better. You know, and then it just keeps spiraling. And then you believe that nonsense Yeah. That people have been telling you. And so I love this concept of just getting a whole bunch of women together who don't necessarily know each other or only know each other a little bit. To uh to be empowering, that just sounds, delightful.

[00:26:48] Luna: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. it's so fun. And you get to learn new things cuz being around different people, you learn new things all the time, ya know. And so just learning new things, learning new terminology. I think the best part of it is the praise. Ya know?

[00:27:08] Gwyn: So you mentioned making lingerie. Are you a stitcher?

[00:27:11] Luna: No. So I am a Repurposer

[00:27:15] Gwyn: Ah ha, ooh tell us about that.

[00:27:17] Luna: Right. So I take lingerie, like when I see lingerie I envision it how I want it to look. So I'll take a piece and I'll cut it up or do whatever I need to do. And I usually add pearls. Like that's my thing, I love pearls, so I add pearls to everything.

[00:27:37] Gwyn: nice.

[00:27:37] Luna: So yeah, no, I am definitely not a stitcher per se. I cannot cut and create and do all those things, but I do add, I take away and I add things and recreate it for my own purpose. So ya. I

[00:27:51] Gwyn: I love that. So you, so you take something and you sort of see it as a blank template. And then you add your own flair to it. Oh I love that. You could do a workshop on that too.

[00:28:04] Luna: Yeah. You know what? I didn't think of

[00:28:06] Gwyn: That Yeah. Just have people bring their own stuff and then, you could even supply some beads or whatever. As an aside, my side hustle is that I sell vintage beads,

[00:28:18] Luna: Oh, do you?

[00:28:19] Gwyn: So if you need beads, let me know.

[00:28:21] Luna: Nice.

[00:28:24] Gwyn: But Okay. So can I ask you some personal questions?

[00:28:28] Luna: Absolutley.

[00:28:29] Gwyn: What's your favorite style of lingerie? What do you like?

[00:28:32] Luna: Bodysuits. I love lace body suits. I have not I've tried all different types of lingerie, but lace body suits are by far my superpower. They're my cape. I can wear them with almost anything. Under clothes or just regular. So I just love lace body suits.

[00:28:54] Gwyn: Nice. And do they have structure inside?

[00:28:59] Luna: So some of them are just the lace. And others they have like the pushup cup and things of that nature. But other than that, no. Like I don't do, I know they have some like where pushes the sides, like more of corset. Yeah. I'm not into those. Whatever's hanging is going to hang. Look, if it's there, is hanging, but yeah, I like, I just love, I love lace. I love the way it feels on me. That's my favorite fabric in the bodysuit. I just like how it hugs, hugs me and makes me feel good.

[00:29:41] Gwyn: I can totally see how that would feel like wearing armor or a secret weapon. I often wear bangles I took them off for microphones, but you know, if I leave the house and I don't have my bangles on, I feel like I've, like, I don't have my weapon, my armor, like my protection.

[00:29:59] Luna: That's exactly what it is. Like I said, like if you're not having a good day or you're not, you're feeling like down on yourself. For me, like wearing a bodysuit does that for me. It, picks me up because it's like I feel sexy, I feel powerful. I usually wear a bodysuit if I'm going to like a meeting, definitely do it. Or if I'm just wanting to feel sexy for the night or whatever. But yeah, body suits are my go to

[00:30:24] Gwyn: I love that I, I'm like I wanna go try one I don't have one, so

[00:30:29] Luna: we gotta you one

[00:30:31] Gwyn: I only wear lingerie, mostly at like events or for my partner. And he doesn't necessarily have like a lingerie fetish kind of wish he did because it would be more interesting to me, you know. I mean, part of it is my body type. I'm a larger woman, and so it's harder to find things that are really really comfortable. But part of it is that I just, i want his eyes to go Wow! When I walk into the room. Yeah. And, you know, he gives me a little of that, but not, there are, there are some men and, and some women there, there are some non-binary people who abs of freaking love lingerie. And do you know of folks who do like personal fashion shows for their people? Or is that something you've encouraged or,

[00:31:20] Luna: Mm, what do you mean like when in like intimate settings?

[00:31:23] Gwyn: Yeah.

[00:31:24] Luna: No, I don't. That would be cool though. Give lingerie lessons on how to like seduce your partner or something. That would be so cool Yeah. [00:31:37] Gwyn: Yes. I know you probably don't know, but back in the seventies there were all these how to belly dance for your husband, sort of They were albums. [00:31:44] Luna: Really? [00:31:45] Gwyn: Yes. I have a few of them. And they were super fun. But I'm thinking about like a little belly dancing move with a little bit of like coming in and what do you think about this honey? And walking back out

[00:31:57] Luna: Something like that. That would be cool.

[00:31:59] Gwyn: Yeah. I had a client who's partner was super into lingerie. And like, he was super into lingerie. And so that was how she would signal to him that tonight would be a good night.

[00:32:12] Luna: That's neat. Okay.

[00:32:14] Gwyn: Add it to your repertoire if you're, having another gathering or teaching moment or you end up with clients who are like, how do I spice this up?

[00:32:23] Luna: Yeah.

[00:32:23] Gwyn: Okay, so lingerie, it's empowering. It's sexy. It's fun to wear as subterfuge is what it sounds like. Just wearing it any old time. Is there any other like tips or tricks that you wanna pass on for people who are thinking about it, who have never gotten into it before, who are like, oh, this maybe might work for me, lemme give it a shot.

[00:32:46] Luna: Make it fun. That is the number one rule that I have. If it's not fun, don't do it. So it shouldn't be a task. Like lingerie shopping shouldn't be a task and, if you put it on and it doesn't feel good, then it's not gonna be fun. So with all of that make sure that it's an enjoyable experience when you're putting it on. And when you're taking it off. I know some lingerie is harder to take off than others or put on but I would say definitely it has to be a fun experience. Because that's why lingerie gets a bad rap for some people because either someone bought it for them and it wasn't you know the correct size. Or it's just all the strappy strappy cuz it looks good. On the package, or when you go into the, you know, sex stores or whatever, it looks good. But just because it looks good doesn't mean it's gonna feel good. So just make sure that when you do it, when you purchase or when you're going shopping for it, that it's fun and you'll go far with that.

[00:33:56] Gwyn: You don't wanna have the experience of being cranky and hungry and, ahhh I just have to do this thing and then like all of that's gonna get associated. Your'e not going to pull this out of it's lovely box and be like YA, you're gonna be like, Ugh, this was such a shitty day.

[00:34:14] Luna: Right. Especially, you know, even if you have a partner that you know, into lingerie and you, and you may not be, but you wanna surprise them with it. Don't ever feel pressured to do it. Also because anything can be turned into sexy for women, right. A large t-shirt,ya know or no t shirt just anything. So just make sure that you, you are comfortable with what you're doing and you don't feel pressured. That's another thing, cause in order for it to be fun you have to actually agree to it So making sure that what you're doing is something you wanna do. And making sure that you're having fun with it. So ya.

[00:34:54] Gwyn: This is great advice for everything, but specifically for something so intimate. yes. So Luna, what excites you?

[00:35:03] Luna: I don't know. I think so many things. Fun. I, and, and I'm like, what, what is fun? So just exploring, exploring new things excites me, learning new things. So whether that's in the bedroom or outside of the bedroom, just trying new things excites me. Even if I don't like it at the end, just going through that experience excites me. So yeah, I would say learning new things and trying new things.

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