So picture this... two women on a podcast call, and within the first five minutes they both get full body chills at the exact same moment. That's how this conversation started. And it only got better from there.

Sharon Marie Scott walked away from being a healer because she was done with the language of brokenness. Done with shadow work as a hamster wheel. Done with the idea that you have to suffer your way to wholeness. Her invitation is wilder and way more fun... go straight to the thing you're most ashamed of. Celebrate it. Watch what happens.

We talk about the pleasure ceiling... that moment where something really good is happening and you unconsciously collapse before you can fully receive it. The Jenga tower framework for understanding your core wounds, which I have not stopped thinking about or talking about since we recorded. The dark masculine and feminine as energetic currents moving through all of us. And what it actually looks like to stop healing and start pleasuring.

Her book Forbidden Alchemy: Transmuting Taboo Into Erotic Medicine is the book she wished she had. And Flesh & Flame: Pleasure as the Portal to Divine Mastery is out now too. Go get both.